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Charlotte Smith

Charlotte Smith

Female Abt 1829 - 1907  (~ 78 years)

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  • Name Charlotte Smith  [1, 2, 3
    Birth Abt 1828  Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Born Abt 1829  Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Female 
    Residence 6 Jun 1841  Deek's Buildings, Oak Street, St Martin at Oak, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Occupation 22 Oct 1847 
    Havel Drawer 
    Residence 22 Oct 1847  Quakers' Lane, St Martin at Oak, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Witness at Marriage 10 Apr 1849  Register Office, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    • sister-in-law's wedding
    Residence 10 Apr 1849  [3
    • Marriage of Sarah Ann Howes, Register Office, Norwich
    Residence 13 Dec 1849  Bull Close, St Paul, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Residence 30 Apr 1850  St Martin's Lane, St Mary Coslany, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Occupation 1851 
    Havel and Slaie Drawer 
    Residence 1851  St Martin's Lane, St Mary Coslany, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence 13 Mar 1854  Howlett's Yard, St Saviour's, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Residence 2 Dec 1857  Fellmongers Arms Yard, 90 Oak Street, St Martin at Oak, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Residence 9 Nov 1859  Fellmongers Arms Yard, 90 Oak Street, St Martin at Oak, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Occupation 1861 
    Shoe Binder 
    Residence 1861  Fellmongers Arms Yard, 90 Oak Street, St Martin at Oak, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence 12 Jan 1862  Fellmongers Arms Yard, 90 Oak Street, St Martin at Oak, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Residence 16 Aug 1864  Rose Yard, St Augustine's Street, St Augustine, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Residence 30 Jul 1866  St Michael's Alley, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Residence 21 Jun 1868  Coslany Street, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Occupation 1871 
    Machinist 
    Residence 1871  Old Palace Road, Heigham St Bartholomew, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence 1881  Old Palace Road, Heigham St Bartholomew, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence 1881  Old Palace Road, Heigham St Bartholomew, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence 1891  144 Heigham Street, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence 1901  164 Heigham St, St Bartholomew, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Death Abt Feb 1907  Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    Age: 79y 
    Name Charlotte Howes  [7
    Name Charlotte Unknown  [8, 9
    Residence 9 Mar 1907  1 Cow Yard, Cow Hill, St Giles, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [9
    Died 9 Mar 1907  1 Cow Yard, Cow Hill, St Giles, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [8, 9
    Age: 79y 
    Cause: Bronchitis 
    Charlotte Howes DC
    Charlotte Howes DC
    Notes 
    • Worked through BTs for 1829. Possible Charlotte in St Mary Coslany....check the whole parish (not there) and St Stephen

      Parishes searched for Charlotte's birth:
      St Augustine's
      St Geo Colegate
      - pre-oct 1828 records illegible
      - William Richard born to Charles/Sarah in Oct 1828
      - Emma to Robert/Mary Ann Oct 1830
      - Ann to Charles/Sarah Dec 1830
      St James Pockthorpe - 1827-
      - James born to James/Mary March 1828
      - Robert to William/Susanna - March 1828
      - Grace to John/Elizabeth - August 1828
      - Martha to Daniel/Mary Ann - Nov 1828
      - John michael to John/Ann - April 1829
      - Maria to Clara/Mary Ann - August 1829
      St Mary Coslany 1828-1830
      St Martin at Oak
      - a John and Ann Smith has a Sophia Bridget in June 1828
      - a William and Mary Ann Smith had a William in Sept 1828
      - a William and Elizabeth Smith had a Hannah in August 1830
      - a John and Susan Smith had a Sarah in August 1831

      We know from the marriage cert of Charlotte that her father was John Smith. In 1851, a John Smith aged 15, cordwainer's apprentice was staying with the family - looks like a younger brother of Charlotte. (There's also a 10-year old "son" called William, whom I just cannot explain).
      In 1861, there's a Robert Smith present in 1861, age 20, Cordwainer - explicitily noted as a brother-in-law. There are only two Robert Smiths aged 10 in the 1851 census who are sons of a John.

      Looking at these two Roberts age 10 in 1851 (sons of John in Norwich), it looks like the first is more likely to have produced a John age 15 in 1851, and a Charlotte aged 22. The occupation fits too.

      Head: SMITH, John Neighbors 160137
      Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace
      John SMITH Head M 44 M Silk Weaver Hardenham-NFK
      Mary SMITH Wife M 41 F Silk Weaver Norwich-NFK
      Henry SMITH Son - 13 M --- Norwich-NFK
      James SMITH Son - 11 M --- Norwich-NFK
      Robert SMITH Son - 10 M --- Norwich-NFK
      Mary Anne SMITH Daur - 11 F --- Norwich-NFK
      Address: Cases Court, Norwich
      Census Place: Norwich St George Colegate Norwich, Norfolk
      PRO Reference: HO/107/1812 Folio: 303 Page: 18 FHL Film: 0207465

      Head: SMITH, John Neighbors 168266
      Name Relationship Mar Age Sex Occupation Birthplace
      John SMITH Head M 32 M Gardener Norwich----
      Elizabeth SMITH Wife M 32 F --- Wymondham-Norfolk
      Robert SMITH Son - 10 M Scholar Norwich----
      Sarah Ann SMITH Daur - 8 F Scholar Norwich----
      Pheobe SMITH Daur - 6 F Scholar Norwich----
      George H. SMITH Son - 3 M --- Norwich----
      Hannah SMITH Daur - 11 F --- Norwich----
      Address: Mill Street, ---
      Census Place: Norwich Lakenham Norwich, Norfolk
      PRO Reference: HO/107/1815 Folio: 117 Page: 25 FHL Film: 0207468

      Clearly, the first is way more likely than the second. It's impossible for the second couple to have had Charlotte. I'm not completely convinced yet, but it's strong evidence. Note that Hardenham is almost certainly Hardingham, just North West of Wymondham.

      Re Occupation: here's what I received from one helpful person:
      According to the 'Dictionary Of Occupational Terms' (produced to aid statisticians extracting data from censuses), 'havel' is a dialect term for 'heald'.

      A heald is an item associated with loom weaving and is described as "loops through which warp threads are drawn"

      There are a number of occupations listed associated with the production and preparation of healds, all more or less self explanatory (tending to the less as far as I am concerned!):, viz:

      (All the following preceded by Heald/Havel)
      Brusher
      Fitter
      Knitter
      Machinist
      Maker
      Mender
      Sizer (applies size)
      Varnisher

      Associated with the weaving process, in particular with the use of Jute, but not preceded by Heald/Havel is the occupation Drawer, described as follows:

      "Takes end of warp which goes last on to the weaver's beam, after beam has been removed from beaming frame, and which contains weaver's lease; selects individual threads and draws them through healds with a hooked tool, or attaches them to ends of warp threads in fabric already woven and in loom."

      (Clear as mud!)

      I can find nothing that could be taken as 'Stai' - unless you consider 'Sizer'.

      Perhaps if you found a treatise on 19th Century weaving (via GOOGLE ?) things might become clearer.

      Slaie

      noun
      A weaver's reed; a sley.

      Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913)
      Word Browser
    Person ID I18692  ONS
    Last Modified 7 Mar 2016 

    Family Thomas Benjamin Howes,   b. 7 Jan 1828, St Augustine, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 Oct 1913, Great Hospital, Bishopgate, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 85 years) 
    Married 22 Oct 1847  Register Office, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Thomas Benjamin Howes / Charlotte Smith MC
    Thomas Benjamin Howes / Charlotte Smith MC
    Witness 22 Oct 1847  [3
    Henry Howes 
    Witness 22 Oct 1847  [3
    Mary Ann Howes 
    Married Abt Nov 1847  Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Children 
    +1. Thomas Benjamin Howes,   b. 3 Mar 1848, Dog & Bitch Yard, St Martin at Oak, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 5 Feb 1924, 25 Shipstone Road, Magdalen Road, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 75 years)
    +2. Henry Howes,   b. 30 Apr 1850, St Martin's Lane, St Mary Coslany, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 24 Jan 1943, 41 Shorncliffe Avenue, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 92 years)
    +3. Enoch Howes,   b. 13 Dec 1851, St Martin's Lane, St Mary Coslany, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt May 1942, Bedford, Bedfordshire Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 90 years)
    +4. James Howes,   b. 13 Mar 1854, Howlett's Yard, St Saviour's, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 29 Feb 1940, 33 Clifton Street, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 85 years)
    +5. George Howes,   b. 2 Dec 1857, Fellmongers Arms Yard, 90 Oak Street, St Martin at Oak, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 30 Dec 1940, 183 Heigham Street, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 83 years)
    +6. Rose Anna Howes,   b. 9 Nov 1859, Fellmongers Arms Yard, 90 Oak Street, St Martin at Oak, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt Feb 1903, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 43 years)
    +7. Charlotte Howes,   b. 12 Jan 1862, Fellmongers Arms Yard, 90 Oak Street, St Martin at Oak, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt Feb 1907, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 45 years)
    +8. Arthur Robert Howes,   b. 16 Aug 1864, Rose Yard, St Augustine's Street, St Augustine, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt Aug 1942, Outer Norwich RD, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 77 years)
    +9. Walter Howes,   b. 30 Jul 1866, St Michael's Alley, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 Feb 1915, HMS Clan MacNaughton Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 48 years)
    +10. Lydia Howes,   b. 21 Jun 1868, Coslany Street, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt Feb 1960, Norwich, Norfolk Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 91 years)
    Last Modified 7 Mar 2016 11:04:18 
    Family ID F6434  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBirth - Abt 1828 - Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBorn - Abt 1829 - Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 22 Oct 1847 - Quakers' Lane, St Martin at Oak, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - 22 Oct 1847 - Register Office, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsMarried - Abt Nov 1847 - Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsWitness at Marriage - 10 Apr 1849 - Register Office, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 30 Apr 1850 - St Martin's Lane, St Mary Coslany, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1851 - St Martin's Lane, St Mary Coslany, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 2 Dec 1857 - Fellmongers Arms Yard, 90 Oak Street, St Martin at Oak, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 9 Nov 1859 - Fellmongers Arms Yard, 90 Oak Street, St Martin at Oak, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1861 - Fellmongers Arms Yard, 90 Oak Street, St Martin at Oak, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 12 Jan 1862 - Fellmongers Arms Yard, 90 Oak Street, St Martin at Oak, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 16 Aug 1864 - Rose Yard, St Augustine's Street, St Augustine, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 30 Jul 1866 - St Michael's Alley, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 21 Jun 1868 - Coslany Street, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1871 - Old Palace Road, Heigham St Bartholomew, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1881 - Old Palace Road, Heigham St Bartholomew, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1881 - Old Palace Road, Heigham St Bartholomew, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 1891 - 144 Heigham Street, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDeath - Age: 79y - Abt Feb 1907 - Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsResidence - 9 Mar 1907 - 1 Cow Yard, Cow Hill, St Giles, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - Age: 79y - 9 Mar 1907 - 1 Cow Yard, Cow Hill, St Giles, Norwich, Norfolk Link to Google Earth
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  • Sources 
    1. [S13] Birth cert - Son.

    2. [S475] BMD register (England & Wales) - marriages - multiple sources.
      available online from various sources

    3. [S50] Marriage cert.

    4. [S2] 1851 census.

    5. [S12] Birth cert - Daughter.

    6. [S511] Birth record - son.

    7. [S480] BMD register (England & Wales) - deaths - multiple sources.

    8. [S1289] Norwich City Health Dept - deaths.

    9. [S20] Death cert.